# So, is the 5 gonna be a drop in replacement for the 4

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**Created:** [November 28, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://forum.clockworkpi.com/t/so-is-the-5-gonna-be-a-drop-in-replacement-for-the-4/15001 "2024-11-28T12:08:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![nemonik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e4f/32.png) [@nemonik](https://forum.clockworkpi.com/u/nemonik)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://forum.clockworkpi.com/t/so-is-the-5-gonna-be-a-drop-in-replacement-for-the-4/15001/1 "2024-11-28T12:08:08Z")

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So I was watching Geerling

[https://x.com/geerlingguy/status/1861681366737326269](https://x.com/geerlingguy/status/1861681366737326269)

Is the 5 gonna be a drop in replacement for the in the uConsole?

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**Author:** ![white-round-square](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.clockworkpi.com/white-round-square/32/10385_2.png) [@white-round-square](https://forum.clockworkpi.com/u/white-round-square)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 12:19pm UTC](https://forum.clockworkpi.com/t/so-is-the-5-gonna-be-a-drop-in-replacement-for-the-4/15001/2 "2024-11-28T12:19:29Z")

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> [@CM5 is here. Just released!](https://forum.clockworkpi.com/t/cm5-is-here-just-released/14961/17):
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> It looks like the kernel is the main thing as Home Assistant have confirmed the CM5 works as a CM4 replacement on the Home Assistant Yellow with just adding CM5 support in HAOS 14.0 So I think the main hurdle for the CM5 will be cooling within the uConsole case

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2024, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.clockworkpi.com/t/so-is-the-5-gonna-be-a-drop-in-replacement-for-the-4/15001/3 "2024-11-28T12:41:21Z")

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Yeah, that was my worry too. The Raspberry Pi 4:

Idle temperature: around 40-50°C (104-122°F)  
Load temperature: around 60-70°C (140-158°F)

But the first few articles I’ve read said the 5 is about the same, and under typical loads would run even cooler than a similarly loaded Raspberry Pi 4.

So, there is hope heat will be drawn away by the case through chunk of heat conducting “tape”.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2024, 11:49am UTC](https://forum.clockworkpi.com/t/so-is-the-5-gonna-be-a-drop-in-replacement-for-the-4/15001/4 "2024-11-29T11:49:28Z")

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if and when someone gets a 5 that they can use with their uConsole if you will test for me I will make sure Void runs correctly with it

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**Author:** ![grandrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b77776/32.png) [@grandrew](https://forum.clockworkpi.com/u/grandrew)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2024, 6:20am UTC](https://forum.clockworkpi.com/t/so-is-the-5-gonna-be-a-drop-in-replacement-for-the-4/15001/5 "2024-11-30T06:20:59Z")

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I expect CM5 to be cooler and faster than CM4 due to just being a generation or two ahead in node process. Basically, an undervolted/underclocked version would certainly run cooler even under full load, and still be overwhelmingly faster. A stock clocked version would throttle if pushed to limit without proper cooling, as many intel CPUs in fanless design do (like, 10 seconds burst then throttle down).

I wouldn’t use my mobile device as any kind battery powered mining rig or an LLM training infrastructure anyways, so I’d overclock the CM5 inside uConsole and enjoy.