Well thats just great…
Thank you for a helpful post.
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I just noticed my battery is also a Lishen 9858102, but has completely different markings. Is Lishen heavily counterfeited?
I switched the cable around and it booted up fine. But after about 3 mins the icons started disappearing from desktop. Not sure why. Maybe mainboard is damaged now. Going back to ned. Will get into it tomorrow.
no just batch difference, lishen is a large battery cell manufacturer and they supply the cells to many power bank oems.
I think they have 2 versions of the 9858102, but both are 3.8v platform so in theory not ideal for uConsole (requires 4.4v for full charge, and gets about 7000mah before uconsole shuts down)
What’s your problem? I answered your question directly.
Why can’t you find specifications on AliExpress? Take a closer look. Some of the 9858102 I found, for example, have a discharge current of 4 A. That’s definitely not going to be enough for a CM5 with NVMe under load.
Others here in the forum aren’t even able to connect a ribbon cable correctly, but complain about alleged shortcomings of the product.
In my opinion, that’s rude.
I mean HG definitely needs better instructions and guides that’s for sure, many info was fairly recently added, I believe that they would do even better next time
That makes sense. I think part of it too is that you never know what bms board they’re putting on it. The only places I’ve found that actually have specs for the bms have a “request quote” button at the bottom of the listing, which means they aren’t going to sell me 1 or 2.
I think the best bet at this point would be to find a smaller lipo, that’s still bigger than most 18650s, that you can fit 2 of into the back of the case.
we can wait for @vileer to test the new “double 5000mah” battery solution, it looks promising.
@N4C3R: If you buy a technical device that overwhelms you, we can’t help you. This forum is not meant to help people who are too lazy to read up on the necessary knowledge themselves. It is not a free service forum. And thank you very much for the insult via private message!
I wasn’t going to wait on vileer, I just haven’t had a chance to dig through the mountain of lipo formats yet.
After doing some stress testing, it looks like while under load (running stress on 4 cores with SDRAngel actively decoding adsb streams from the SDR and pyGPSClient running in the back ground), it looks like I’m maxxing out at about 2.65A (2.4A from the USB input and 0.25A draw from the battery). I think I’m good with 3A supply. Your mileage may vary depending on how thirsty of an ssd you have installed and if you have anything plugged into the USB ports.
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As a side note, using the back of the case as a heatsink for a CM5 seems perfectly sufficient. I’m hovering right around 60C while under heavy load.
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After doing the test I unplugged the USB cable. The battery showed 2.8A and the voltage immediately dropped and then it died. It definitely looks like the internal resistance on my particular battery is too high.
I also just realized I wasn’t accounting for the difference in voltage between the battery and the USB port is the last post. Total power draw was 13W (12 from USB and 1 from the battery) so full draw at a nominal 3.8v would actually be 3.4A.
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a bit after the battle and I will keep it simple but could people stay civil here and not attack each other on things that do not matter in reality?
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I can confirm this LIPO does have issues. It might be something with the specification of voltage control. With my experience of Lipo, I have decided switching back to 18650 
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These Lipo batteries do not appear to be designed to deliver sufficient high currents. Even if the battery can handle a nominal 4 A continuous load and you only need 3 A, the voltage drop can be so high that the uConsole shuts down.
A SAMSUNG 18650 35E for example can handle a discharge current of 8 A. So two in parallel can handle 16 A. And if you draw 3 or 4 A of these 16 A total, the voltage will decrease only slightly. That’s a whole different league.
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I am going to pair these both up 20,000 Mah I have a customised adapter that connects twin lipo batteries
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I have a 3 cell 18650 battery design fit perfectly with the back plate, but realize it was not going to work with nvme installed… 
I have adjusted the design to be a JST-2ph plug-able 2 cells instead. Wondering if anyone knows a way to route the nvme to else-where with minimal footprint
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Just make sure you hook them up in parallel.