clockworkpi

When will we have more video of the Gameshell in action?

I mean, they sorta demoed that it is like a Raspberry Pi but in Gameboy form.
They had some issues with “showing” what games you can play, legal reasons I think.

You can check out the comparison table. It compares this hardware with the RPI, and it seems to logically make sense. No outrageous claims.

But if your looking for how well it will play StarFox64:

  1. It probably can’t do N64 games well, bad example.
  2. Performance will very by emulator and rom. Even different dumps of the same game.
  3. Compare similar hardware

As with every campaign, there is a chance they could run off with you money. When the campaign is in that sweet spot between “I could build this myself for $150” and “I can blow $75 on a kickstarter project”, is when I buy it. Trust me, I would rather lose $100 dollars to these people than try and build this for a 3RD time.

If I were to guess, I’d assume the most concerning part of the campaign is the “ships to backers in April” when the campaign finished in December. Given my experience buying this from China (where they are shipping out from), the time tables of when the production / shipping phases will occur, and that they started production on the product after the campaign ended, the shipping in April the most realistic and accurate date (especially when you factor in the loss of production time for the Chinese New Year holiday).

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Oh, well now I know.

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It was bothering me! I had to say something!

I couldn’t finish my math homework with that lingering.
“Wait… Isn’t it VR only? Is TrapaPie trolling us? No, he wouldn’t do that. He might do that…”

To respond to your earlier inquiry as to why I find the situation sketchy, I believe that transparency is lacking to an extreme degree. I apparently cannot argue that shipping details have not been set in stone, as you say that there have been updates relating to that for backers (details that should not be hidden behind a paywall), but there have been no comments regarding the quality of build from a neutral perspective. The place of operation’s dubious nature aside (which I am not saying is in of itself dubious, merely that many scam products come from China and get away with it) the shipping date is so far from the other stages that credit card charge backs will be near impossible to receive, and considering the lack of protection Kickstarter provides all of this compiles into what could very well be a loss of over $100. This all paired with my comments provided in the original post.

I am not calling out the Gameshell as a scam, but I am claiming that these are practices one would see in a scam. I don’t really want to just be negative in this situation, but with all of this said, this forum as a whole is ignored. I have seen 0 comments from devs here, and the only quality comments I have seen here have been yours. That said, I realize that my money is my own to spent, and I can easily wait for the product to actually come out before I purchase anything.

Yes, they tend not to respond to these threads unless summoned into a thread (like this: @yong), however they have a holiday coming up tomorrow, so it may be a bit until you get a response. I also realize I’ve been referring to these backer-only updates in the abstract, here’s some of the key points mentioned in them (summarized and paraphrased for brevity):

  • 2017-12-09:
    Production progres
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  • 2017-12-16:
    Video shared on YouTube: link, and confirmation that there’s been no hiccups in production.
  • 2017-12-19:
    Campaign ended, general thanks, pointed out that there’s an Indiegogo campaign up now.
  • 2018-01-02:
    Forum goes live
  • 2018-01-09:
    Further confirmation that there’s no issues in production
  • 2018-01-17:
    Another glamor shot of the production stuff
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  • 2018-01-30:
    There’s a video posted on Kickstarter’s video hosting, so I cannot link to it. It’s a video of the production line. Here’s a few screenshots:
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  • 2018-02-06
    Informed that GameShells were being sent out to backers who filled out their survey before the deadline once the holidays are over, tracking numbers to follow soon.

Hopefully that helps. In the end, the difference of price between the retail and the discount you get for backing early isn’t that huge, and if your main concern is if this is a scam or not you can always just wait until we all get the GameShells and can report if they are legit or not. Then you can order one then and know fully that you will get your money’s worth. From where I’m sitting, though, this seems legit to me and I haven’t seen any evidence yet to show otherwise.

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This is reassuring, but I still feel as though these things shouldn’t be hidden from non backers for this exact reason. While I still certainly have my complaints, this does put many of my arguments to rest. Much appreciated, and have a nice day.

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I’m glad I as able to help. Also, in fairness to Clockwork, a lot of the updates also included content that would not make sense to a non-backer (e.g. things about surveys and pledge management), so it’d make sense to check them as “backer-only”.

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Since the staff has not broken any promises, asserted or implied**, or even extended any release dates, I have zero reason to suspect the company intends to cheat me. I do not believe I can find anyone who has been cheated, and I have no one to investigate to discover any grounds.

** For instance, I can’t find the link, but I remember that someone once sold a penny on Ebay as an artistic copper engraving of Abraham Lincoln and made a lot of money. Although he told no lies, it was determined that this was a fraud because he intentionally mislead his customers. As for “implied consent,” that’s actually how a lot of rape happens. Yet, that appears totally legal. “Implied consent” can be interpreted as an intention on the part of the law to do fraud. So, as for whether the law intends to do justice, that’s its own question. Still, this company has not incurred any ill repute.

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@Mugman16, I’m sorry that we have not released more video to make you feel more confident about GameShell , we will try harder to post more updates in production as soon as everyone is back from the New Year holiday in about a week time. This is the longest holiday in China, some of our manufacturing partners in Shenzhen may not have workers back until the first week of March. I appreciate your interest and suggestion, in the mean time, please stay updated, and feel free to order when you feel convinced.

@aewens, I cannot thank you enough for posting these pictures to help clarify our progress.

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Not a problem, I like to help the community where I can.

Yong, that’s all great and everything. But my dog ate the cover off one of my books, and I had to spend twice as much for the content to replace the book with one that had exactly the same cover. Somehow I just know it was your fault. You must release a GameShell update immediately to ameliorate this pressing concern.

:sweat: It’s all my fault, we will release new update ASAP.
@TrapaPie, BTW. I think your dog was just trying to make a dog-eared book for you, it’s the year of :dog2: anyway.

I’m technically a Rabbit for horoscope, but I was close enough to Earth Dragon. I can’t prove it. So you should be fine. Anyway, your avatar was appropriately concerned about the sword on the cover image. I’m not cognizant enough about the phenomenon to explain why the digested negative looked the way it did, but I refuse to believe your avatar ended up on the cover by accident. :wink: taps foot

nakoplir

Examine! This is the evidence that condemns you. Oh, the most wretched futility of your horrible defense! :smiley: Anyway, I already blamed the dog and denied him a delectable treat, even though he was totally innocent. I could tell by the way he wagged his tail and flopped his ears.

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LOL…
Poor dog :dog:
I can prove your Dragoness if you post your DOB.
Btw. I am a Rabbit myself.

That’s fine. You never know how something like DOB is going to link up with other things to create circumstantial evidence. People are most judgemental, but if people ever decided to start working together and telling the truth, who knows? I’m not sure I can authenticate your certificate for the privilege to verify horoscope animal. Is the production run still scheduled for shipping this April?


For the curious…

Second, China has more data than the US—way more. Data is what makes AI go. A very good scientist with a ton of data will beat a super scientist with a modest amount of data (sic). China has the most mobile phones and internet users in the world—triple the number in the United States.

So, the reason that data increases a scientist’s AI-power to solve difficult problems may not be entirely straightforward.

I was joking about the DOB :joy:, but in China, the horoscopic Zodiac was often used to guess one’s age with the margin of error of 12 years, so, end of 1963, 1975, 1987, etc. :thinking:?


For the AI destroying jobs, it’s not that simple, there’s always the (flawed) counter-argument of ATM create more jobs for bank tellers.
https://www.recode.net/2017/5/8/15584268/eric-schmidt-alphabet-automation-atm-bank-teller
I think it will be like wild fire, eliminating some and creating more. Didn’t they finish that annual question in 2015 already :smirk:
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https://www.edge.org/annual-question/what-do-you-think-about-machines-that-think

I wouldn’t just tell you the answer to such a satisfying mystery. Eric Schmidt probably knows my DOB, and he’d brag about it. But didn’t they fire him for being too honest?


Colbert’s wary truthiness surrounding his Schmidt interview renews my confidence in the GameShell project. There’s two demands you can count on, sex and security.

We inquired about the VALUE of this Will. Granted that we want the truth: WHY NOT RATHER untruth? And uncertainty? Even ignorance? The problem of the value of truth presented itself before us—or was it we who presented ourselves before the problem? ─ Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil

OK. The team just sent in some pictures and video of GameShell in action through wechat.
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https://youtu.be/gK56rgYHif0

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I have dedicated my YouTube channel to creating videos for this community.

If a specific video is wanted, ask and you shall receive (if I can do it)

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